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biff- 02-12-2006
Cheney Accidentally Shoots Fellow Hunter


Feb 12, 9:57 PM (ET)
By LYNN BREZOSKY and NEDRA PICKLER


CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas (AP) - Vice President Dick Cheney accidentally shot and wounded a companion during a weekend quail hunting trip in Texas, spraying the fellow hunter in the face and chest with shotgun pellets.

Harry Whittington, a millionaire attorney from Austin, was in stable condition in the intensive care unit of a Corpus Christi hospital Sunday.

"He is stable and doing well. It was almost like he was spending time with me in my living room," said hospital administrator Peter Banko, who visited Whittington.

Banko said Whittington was in the intensive care unit because his condition warranted it, but he didn't elaborate. Whittington sent word through a hospital official that he would have no comment on the incident out of respect for Cheney.

The accident occurred Saturday at a ranch in south Texas where the vice president and several companions were hunting quail. It was not reported publicly by the vice president's office for nearly 24 hours, and then only after it was reported locally by the Corpus Christi Caller-Times on its Web site Sunday.

Katharine Armstrong, the ranch's owner, said Sunday that Cheney was using a 28-gauge shotgun and that Whittington was about 30 yards away when he was hit in the cheek, neck and chest.

Each of the hunters was wearing a bright orange vest at the time, Armstrong told reporters at the ranch about 60 miles southwest of Corpus Christi. She said Whittington was "alert and doing fine."

Armstrong told The Associated Press emergency personnel traveling with Cheney tended to Whittington before an ambulance - routinely on call because of the vice president's presence - took him to a hospital in Kingsville. From there, Whittington was flown by helicopter to Corpus Christi about 40 miles away.

Cheney's spokeswoman, Lea Anne McBride, said the vice president met with Whittington at the hospital on Sunday. Cheney "was pleased to see that he's doing fine and in good spirits," she said.

Armstrong said she was watching from a car while Cheney, Whittington and another hunter got out of the vehicle to shoot at a covey of quail.

Whittington shot a bird and went to retrieve it in the tall grass, while Cheney and the third hunter walked to another spot and discovered a second covey.

Whittington "came up from behind the vice president and the other hunter and didn't signal them or indicate to them or announce himself," Armstrong said.

"The vice president didn't see him," she continued. "The covey flushed and the vice president picked out a bird and was following it and shot. And by god, Harry was in the line of fire and got peppered pretty good."

Whittington has been a private practice attorney in Austin since 1950 and has long been active in Texas Republican politics. He's been appointed to several state boards, including when then-Gov. George W. Bush named him to the Texas Funeral Service Commission.

McBride said the vice president's office did not tell reporters about the accident Saturday because they were deferring to Armstrong to handle the announcement of what happened on her property.

Armstrong, owner of the Armstrong Ranch where the accident occurred, said Whittington was bleeding after he was shot and Cheney was very apologetic.

"It broke the skin," she said of the shotgun pellets. "It knocked him silly. But he was fine. He was talking. His eyes were open. It didn't get in his eyes or anything like that.

"Fortunately, the vice president has got a lot of medical people around him and so they were right there and probably more cautious than we would have been," she said. "The vice president has got an ambulance on call, so the ambulance came."

Cheney is an avid hunter who makes annual trips to South Dakota to hunt pheasants. He also travels frequently to Arkansas to hunt ducks, among other places.

Armstrong said Cheney is a longtime friend who comes to the ranch to hunt about once a year and is "a very safe sportsman." She said Whittington is a regular, too, but she thought it was the first time the two men hunted together.

"This is something that happens from time to time. You know, I've been peppered pretty well myself," said Armstrong.

The 50,000-acre Armstrong ranch has been in the influential south Texas family since the turn of the last century. Katharine is the daughter of Tobin Armstrong, a politically connected rancher who has been a guest at the White House and spent 48 years as director of the Texas and Southwestern Cattle Raisers Association. He died in October. Cheney was among the dignitaries who attended his funeral.

Cheney was legally hunting with a license he purchased in November, Texas Parks and Wildlife Department spokesman Steve Lightfoot said. The vice president flew back to Washington on Sunday evening, according to his office.


since the guy didn't die... tmbgtalk/-roflmao.gif

CZGoldEdition- 02-12-2006
Yikes! I'd be afraid to be around hunters for that very reason. I mean.. goodness, it hurts enough to be accidentally shot by paintballs in the neck, I can't imagine what it'd be like if you got nailed with shotgun pellets. tmbgtalk/-lol2.gif

Cronny- 02-13-2006
I laughed out loud when I read that headline tmbgtalk/-laugh.gif

I'm quite lucky that the guy didn't die. Othewise I'd feel like a jerk tmbgtalk/-naughty2.gif

FirestarterCL- 02-13-2006
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Excellent, now lets go eat a puppy.



He's THAT evil!

biff- 02-13-2006
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speaking of accidents, here's another one...

Oops! - Bush Unaware Mikes Were Still On

Feb 11, 10:08 AM (ET)

CAMBRIDGE, Md. (AP) - The eavesdropping tables were turned on President Bush on Friday. The president apparently believed he was speaking privately when he talked about listening in without a warrant on domestic communications with suspected al-Qaida terrorists overseas. But reporters were the ones doing the listening in this time.

The incident happened at a House Republican retreat. After six minutes of public remarks by the president, reporters were ushered out. "I support the free press, let's just get them out of the room," Bush said, intending to speak behind closed doors with fellow Republicans and take lawmakers' questions.

When reporters left, Bush spoke about the National Security Agency program that he authorized four years ago and which has drawn criticism from Democrats and Republicans alike.

However, the microphones stayed on for a few minutes. That allowed journalists back at the White House to eavesdrop on Bush's defense of the eavesdropping. His private statements were basically no different from what he's said in public.

"I want to share some thoughts with you before I answer your questions," Bush began. "First of all, I expect this conversation we're about to have to stay in the room. I know that's impossible in Washington."

He was right.

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Cronny- 02-13-2006
tmbgtalk/-frown.gif Just think of what we could have heard if he hadn't caught himself tmbgtalk/00000ohnoes.gif

grchereck- 02-13-2006
tmbgtalk/-lol2.gif Good grief... tmbgtalk/+no2.gif

horrid goblin- 02-13-2006
cause the point of a gun was the only law that Cheney understood
When it came to shootin’ straight and fast---he was mighty good.

CZGoldEdition- 02-14-2006
tmbgtalk/-lol2.gif Excellent poem, horrid.

Yeah, today in band, one kid dropped a triangle (you know, the metal toy percussion instruments used in some songs) and it made a rather loud distracting clatter, and when everyone looked back at him, another one of my fellow percussionists shrugged and said, "It's okay.. Cheney shot someone" and a bunch of us laughed.

biff- 02-14-2006
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he got a warning...

Cheney Cited for Breaking Hunting Law

Feb 14, 3:56 AM (ET)
By NEDRA PICKLER


WASHINGTON (AP) - Vice President Dick Cheney has been given a warning citation for breaking Texas hunting law by failing to buy a $7 stamp allowing him to shoot upland game birds.

The warning came from the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department after it investigated Cheney's accidental shooting of a fellow quail hunter Saturday on the private Armstrong Ranch in the south part of the state.

The department found the accident was caused by a "hunter's judgment factor" when Cheney sprayed another hunter while aiming at flying birds.

The report said the victim, prominent Republican attorney Harry Whittington of Austin, was retrieving a downed bird and stepped out of the hunting line he was sharing with Cheney. "Another covey was flushed and Cheney swung on a bird and fired, striking Whittington in the face, neck and chest at approximately 30 yards," the report said.

Cheney, an experienced hunter, has not commented publicly about the accident. His office said Monday night in a statement that Cheney had a $125 nonresident hunting license and has sent a $7 check to cover the cost of the stamp. "The staff asked for all permits needed, but was not informed of the $7 upland game bird stamp requirement," the statement said.

Whittington also received a warning for failing to have the stamp. A department spokesman said warnings are being issued in most cases because the stamp requirement only went into effect five months ago and many hunters aren't aware of it.

Whittington was in stable condition at Christus Spohn Hospital Corpus Christi-Memorial and was moved from intensive care to a "step-down unit" Monday. Doctors decided to leave several birdshot pellets lodged in his skin rather than try to remove them.

Katharine Armstrong, owner of the ranch where the shooting occurred, said it happened toward the end of the hunt, when it was still sunny but as darkness was encroaching and they were preparing to go inside. She said Whittington made a mistake by not announcing that he had walked up to rejoin the hunting line, and Cheney didn't see him as he tried to down a bird.

Armstrong said she saw Cheney's security detail running toward the scene. "The first thing that crossed my mind was he had a heart problem," she told The Associated Press.

She said Cheney stayed "close but cool" while the agents and medical personnel treated Whittington, then took him by ambulance to the hospital. Later, the hunting group sat down for dinner while Whittington was being treated, receiving updates from a family member at the hospital. Armstrong described Cheney's demeanor during dinner as "very worried" about Whittington.

Pamela Willeford, the U.S. ambassador to Switzerland, another member of the hunting party, told The Dallas Morning News for a story in Tuesday's editions that she and Cheney didn't realize Whittington had picked up a bird and caught up with them.

Willeford said she has hunted with Cheney before and would again.

"He's a great shot. He's very safety conscious. This is something that unfortunately was a bad accident and when you're with a group like that, he's safe or safer than all the rest of us," she said.

The accident raised questions about Cheney's adherence to hunting safety practices and the White House's failure to disclose the accident in a timely way.

Duane Harvey, president of the Wisconsin Hunter Education Instructors Association, said if Whittington had made his presence known "that would have been a polite thing to do." But, he added, "it's still the fault upon the shooter to identify his target and what is beyond it."

President Bush was told about Cheney's involvement in the accident shortly before 8 p.m. Saturday - about an hour after it occurred - but the White House did not disclose the accident until Sunday afternoon, and then only in response to press questions.

Facing a press corps upset that news had been withheld, press secretary Scott McClellan said, "I think you can always look back at these issues and look at how to do a better job."

Armstrong said she told Cheney on Sunday morning that she was going to inform the local paper, the Corpus Christi Caller-Times. She said he agreed, and the newspaper was the first to report the incident on its Web site Sunday afternoon.

Secret Service spokesman Eric Zahren said that about an hour after Cheney shot Whittington, the head of the Secret Service's local office called the Kenedy County sheriff to report the accident. "They made arrangements at the sheriff's request to have deputies come out and interview the vice president the following morning at 8 a.m. and that indeed did happen," Zahren said.

At least one deputy showed up at the ranch's front gate Saturday evening and asked to speak to Cheney but was turned away by the Secret Service, Zahren said. There was some miscommunication that arrangements already had been made to interview Cheney the next morning, he said.

Gilbert San Miguel, chief deputy sheriff for Kenedy County, said the department's report had not been completed Monday and that it was being handled as a hunting accident, although he would not comment about what exactly they were investigating. Both the sheriff's department and the state have determined that alcohol did not appear to be a factor.



when i took hunter safety class in high school, the first rule was to identify your target. duh. tmbgtalk/-nerd.gif

Cronny- 02-14-2006
QUOTE (CZGoldEdition @ Feb 14 2006, 01:20 AM)
Yeah, today in band, one kid dropped a triangle (you know, the metal toy percussion instruments used in some songs) and it made a rather loud distracting clatter, and when everyone looked back at him, another one of my fellow percussionists shrugged and said, "It's okay.. Cheney shot someone" and a bunch of us laughed.

tmbgtalk/-roflmao.gif I'm gonna use that!

biff- 02-14-2006
as it turns out, that guy got a piece of buckshot lodged in his heart, & had a heart attack. tmbgtalk/+wow.gif he got rushed back to intensive care today.

no offense on any possible republicans, but this is the shadiest administration ever. they don't feel like they have to tell anybody anything. i hope Cheney gets charged with negligence. tmbgtalk/-eyes.gif (i just hope it doesn't end up being negligent homicide)

i knew more about hunting safety when i was 8 years old. my brother used to take me out with him. you don't shoot a gun unless you know exactly what you're shooting at. not kinda... exactly.

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Cronny- 02-14-2006
I've never been. tmbgtalk/dunno.gif

The Daily Show had sooo much fun with this whole incident last night tmbgtalk/-laugh.gif

biff- 02-15-2006
i'll just bet. tmbgtalk/-lol2.gif (i always forget to watch that show, even though i love it) tmbgtalk/eyes2.gif

you're not missing much, Cronny. shooting a big gun is fun, but killing animals isn't so much. i mostly just stuck with target practice. i was actually a really good shot, back in the day. i'm probably not anymore though, since it's been 20+ years since i've shot a gun, & i kinda lost a lot of my depth perception along the way. tmbgtalk/-bigblush.gif

horrid goblin- 02-18-2006
don't you shut one eye to aim anyway?

I heard one of them mock covers of Aerosmiths janey's got a gun, converted to Cheneys got a gun, the steven tyler impersonation was scarily dead on

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